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Apr 9 08 1:48 PM

Good post. I am not sure what liberalism was initially but I do use that term quite loosely as a way to convey my message. So I might be a bit off but I am referring to the liberalism of today or what people so commonly call the far left way of thinking...

Secondly, a lot of these programs are not bad, and were initially fine. And of course we get people who abuse the system...

But I think we find it too easy for citizens to rely so heavily on the government to bail them out every time some sort of crisis arises.

Now there is a trade off. You may have to work harder or go through some tougher times when you are independent and not so reliant on the government. Most people call that 'old fashioned' or 'old school'. Today we are always looking to do it better and faster and better our way of life, God forbid we break a sweat.

Now I am not against progressing as a society and making things better in our daily lives. The only problem is we are dependent on them rather than using what we have as a luxury. Luxuries have become necessities. If there was a way to keep all of what we have built, and the programs we have set in place to be more of a luxury and less of a dependence then we would be much better off.

But we have come to a point where if our oil furnace dies on us we would freeze to death. We wouldn't know how to survive.

Not to get off the point of the thread but because of our attitudes and way of thinking that has been taught through our shifting society we feel that things such as having an oil furnace, a toilet that flushes, hot water, cable tv, and X Box is the right to every citizen. If we don't have those things then our right to live just like everyone else in America has somehow been stripped from us.